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twerp
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using m-OX again>interesting concern
« on: Dec 16th, 2002, 1:48pm » |
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Hi used the OX and YOKE about 18 months ago with Logic, with great results. ow I've got logic on a seperate PC and have Cubase SX doing all the VST instrument work, then I cut the resulting sounds into logic AS audio files.
Here's the situation. I'm TRYING to NOT use the yoke. I believe what I want to do is NOT possible without the YOKE... it's just that I'm going to be gigging and as much as I love the OX I don't THINK I need extra midi in's and out's as I have 2 interfaces on and i have to admit I'm a it cxoncerned about resources in my PC and stability.
1) Does anyone know IF the YOKE takes and IRQ?
2) I read the XP Pro registry tweaks one can do. I have to think a lot about that as ALL I really need to do is split my keyboard and perhaps a few other nifty ORE-interface tweaks.
SO: Cubase SX as some of you know IS NOT like Logic cause each track has and INPIT and an OUTPUT the I select...for every track on the arrange page.
So: I installed JUST the OX (without YOKE) and I can set my keyboard AND the OX to the SAME midi in no problem.
OR rather that IS the prob. I think.
I believe it's NOT possible without the YOKE to use thre OX to channelize and/or keysplit my master keyboard and then have Cubase SEE the same input (like it is NOW!) only have it respond to the mapping changes I've done.
AGAIN: Ideally i'd NOT have to install the YOKE. I ONLY want to do keysplits really so I was hallucinating that it MAy be possible to change the data and have CUBASE SX accept my mapping before it sees the midi in on the various track that I select to play LIVe thru.
Is that perfectly MUDDY?
I've got a UNITOR 8 hooked up to thre Com1 port on the PC and I also have a bunch more midi interfaces. hooked up as well that are used for syncing between PC1 and PC2.
No I'm NOT spoiled.... I sold everything to get 2 good PC's.
It's VERY exciting now isn't it! !
What I DON'T have is a way of KEYSPLITTING for when I play live.
I won't go into too much here...
The basic request is for help on whether I can have the OX GRAB the midi port I use on the unitor 8 INPUT where my keyboard goes in.... and then STILL have Cubase SX see that same port YET see it as having mapped data by the OX.
"No" RIGHT!? 
Just to point out that Cubase sees the Unitor via the Com1 serial cable and it's not like the midi cable is going out the OUTPUT of the Unitor and then OFF to the PC in question (with SX on it)
Nope.. it's all done thru the serial cable for the UNITOR.
I don't even have the outputs hooked up on the UNITOR at all. I use the other midifaces for the sync between the PC's
OH yes.... I DO have an MSB+ switcher BEFORE the UNITOR which won't do keysplits unfortunately!!!!! NOT that i'd like to fiddle with a box IF I can have SX do the work or the OX
Hey, SX meets the OX
SOXY!
thanks for going thru the headscratch with me
twerp
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Re: using m-OX again>interesting concern
« Reply #1 on: Dec 16th, 2002, 2:00pm » |
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twerp here: um, I just saw the SX EILL do keysplits....
i'd still rather use the OX but I don't think it's possible without the YOKE...
Comments OH gurus?!
thanks
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Re: using m-OX again>interesting concern
« Reply #2 on: Dec 16th, 2002, 3:32pm » |
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The keysplitting in SX is average and doesn't allow more thanb 2 plits the way it is right now. Any comments on my mad ramble above appreciated.
Sorry about typoes.... I've got to sleep now!
twerp
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Re: using m-OX again>interesting concern
« Reply #3 on: Dec 17th, 2002, 1:07am » |
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MIDI Yoke does not use an IRQ. With an 8 port interface you can route the MIDI without installing MIDI Yoke, by setting up a hardware loopback.
Here's an example:
Hook your Keyboard Output to Unitor 1 input. Open Unitor 1 input in MIDI-OX and open Unitor 1 Output in MIDI-OX. Run a MIDI cable from Unitor 1 Output to Unitor 2 Input (hardware loopback) Open Unitor 2 Input in SX. The MIDI now travels from the keyboard into MIDI-OX and then into SX.
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Re: using m-OX again>interesting concern
« Reply #4 on: Dec 17th, 2002, 9:15am » |
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Brilliant Jamie! Thanks.... 2 concerns
1) the extra latency
2) I didn't detail HOW I use the msb+ 8x8 router. I use it BEFORE the unitor 8 and ALL 8 outputs from the MSB go to ALL 8 inputs on the Unitor. That way I can simply change patches on the MSB and I can PLAY a different track in SX because each one is set for a different MIDI input.
If I take a loopback harware approach I loose an input. I suppose I would gain a lot? Have to think this one thru. Actually my first thought is that as i use a different KYBD in tp the Unitor each time I change VST instrument it's not the best plan. LOVE the OX and I can use it for viewing data etc. WISH there was another solution. I suppose I could use a totally seperate interface dedicated to my KEyboard and the OX although I'd be going thru a lota stuff to finally get to SX.
THANKS GREATLY!
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Re: using m-OX again>interesting concern
« Reply #5 on: Dec 17th, 2002, 10:35am » |
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MIDI Hardware latency doesn't really rise a measurable amount unless you have cable lengths exceeding 50 feet.
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