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dogboyUS
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Johnson J-Station
« on: Jan 29th, 2003, 4:53pm » |
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Just wondering if anyone here has any experience setting up a J-Station as a controller using Midi OX 
Any advice would be appreciated.
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KKillworth
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #1 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 11:24pm » |
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I just loaded Midi ox and I lost access to my J-station through the J-edit software. I got an error when open the app and it just hung. I'm not sure what the problem was but I had to uninstall Midi ox to get J-Edit working again. It doesn't seem to like the midi ox ports. Did you have the same problem and have you found a solution.
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Jamie OConnell
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #2 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 3:35am » |
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I am confused by your remark: MIDI-OX doesn't present any ports. It only uses devices which have been installed in Windows. Could you be speaking about the MIDI Yoke driver? Or are you referring to the fact that you may have drivers which are not multi-client?
If you are talking about MIDI-OX, then what drivers did you ask it to open? Was the hang in MIDI-OX or J-edit? If the hang was in J-edit, was MIDI-OX running at the time? Since MIDI-OX performs no actions whatsoever when it is not running, you likely did not need to un-install it.
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #3 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 6:42pm » |
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Jamie,
I wasn't very Clear. It was the midi-yoke that was causing my problems. Midi-ox is installed and is fine. After installing midi-yoke the j-edit software hangs. When I uninstalled the midi-yoke the j-edit software works fine.
Kevin
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #4 on: Apr 26th, 2003, 2:15am » |
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Thanks for clarifying this. Could it be that the J-Edit software opens all the MIDI input and output ports when it is launched? If so that would cause MIDI feedback when the same MIDI Yoke port is opened for both input and output within a single application. That could easily hang the application. See if it is possible to specify which MIDI ports to use.
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #5 on: Apr 26th, 2003, 9:01pm » |
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Jamie,
The error message I'm getting says an invalid parameter was passed to a system function and that where it hangs. In the midi setup for j-edit I have the midi in and out ports set to the midi ports on the Audiophile card. the midi channel is set to 1 and the sysex device id is also set to 1.
Kevin
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #6 on: Apr 27th, 2003, 2:47am » |
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I'm not sure where that error is from (Windows?), or how the mere presence of an unused driver in the system could cause it? What version of Windows are you running?
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KKillworth
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #7 on: May 3rd, 2003, 8:29pm » |
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I think the error is from the J-Edit software. It appears after the application shell comes up and the software is trying to communicate with the j-station through the midi interface. Everytime you open the application it transfers transfers sysex data. After I get the error the app hangs trying to communicate witht he j-station.
I'm running windows XP home on a 2gig hp vectra. with 512mb of ram.
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #8 on: May 6th, 2003, 8:08pm » |
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I actually have a J-Station. but I never tried installing the J-Edit software until now. Now I see what you're talking about. There is one fatally BAD design decision they made in this software! If it doesn't find the J-Station on the currently numbered ports (in their registry settings), they do an auto-scan through all MIDI devices looking for it.
This is ludicrous, as it will always hang when it opens a MIDI Yoke input and output concurrently and sends data through it! Worse, there is no visible way to prevent the auto-scan unless it finds the device on the first try. With a bit of registry hacking you can set this up to work with MIDI Yoke, but you may have to redo this if you ever add or remove any MIDI ports, because it records the port number and not the name (another less than stellar decision).
Incidently, I could not get their firmware updater to work on Windows XP, although I did get it to work and updated on Windows ME.
To prevent auto-scan from occuring you have to configure the correct input and output ports that the J-Station is attached to. Furthermore, because they only store the port number, you need to re-install MIDI Yoke first, if you want to use it. Otherwise, the ports may get renumbered when you do install it.
Instructions:
With J-Edit installed and all of your MIDI ports installed, and MIDI-OX installed, and your J-Station attached:
1) Launch MIDI-OX and open Options | MIDI Devices... Note the input port attached to the J-Station Output. At the extreme left of the line in MIDI-OX is the Port Number. Example: 3) or 5) or some other number. Subtract one from it and write it down. I.E. If the Port was 3) write down MIDI In: 2, if it was 7) write down MIDI In: 6.
2) Do the same for the MIDI-OX Output port (input to the J-Station).
3) Open REGEDIT and navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Johnson Amplification\J-Edit\Settings
Under that key you will find two values: MIDI In, and MIDI Out. Change the numbers to the ones you wrote down. IMPORTANT: choose Decimal in the XP REGEDIT, Edit DWORD Value dialog.
You should now be able to start and use J-Edit without it doing an auto-scan (and hanging).
All normal warnings about Registry editing apply...
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #9 on: May 7th, 2003, 12:23pm » |
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Jamie,
Thanks I'll give it a try. I felt that the J-edit design was the problem. I have not tried to update my firmware on XP It worked on 2K Pro before I bought a new PC with XP. Thanks for your effort on this, I really like having the J-edit running while I tracking because it is so quick to adjust my tone. I think I can live with the work-arounds you have come up with.
Kevin
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Re: Johnson J-Station
« Reply #10 on: Jul 24th, 2015, 9:10pm » |
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I know the original topic is very old, but I just recently bought a used J-Station thru eBay, and I've run into the same problem as the original poster.
I've tried to follow the posted instructions, but it's not working for me in my Windows 2000 DAW system (yes, all this stuff is old - but then, so am I).
This is what I see when I try to follow the instructions listed previously under this topic:
1. The J-Station doesn't appear in MIDI-OX Options l MIDI Devices, so I can't tell which Port Number it's trying to use.
2. Both the MIDI In and MIDI Out values for the J-Station in the Registry are "0" (I can't subtract 1 as instructed, because it won't take a negative number - I've tried several other positive numbers, but still no joy).
In addition to Windows 2000, and as it relates to MIDI, my DAW setup's physical devices include: Yamaha SW1000XG card (which provides the only physical MIDI input/output for the DAW), Peavey StudioMix control surface, Alexis QX49 MIDI keyboard controller, the J-Station, and MIDI Solutions Quadra Merge. Software includes SONAR 2.2XL, XGedit95, and J-Edit (the SW1000XG also has SW1000 MIDI In, SW1000 MIDI Out available to SONAR, and outs for the onboard synthesizers available to both SONAR and XGedit).
J-Edit only works if MIDI-Yoke is uninstalled, AND SW1000 MIDI In and SW1000 MIDI Out are NOT selected in SONAR.
J-Edit seems "willing" to use only SW1000 MIDI In and SW1000 MIDI Out (in which case, SONAR can't use them, so neither the StudioMix, nor the Alexis QX40 MIDI functions work with the DAW).
If I try to run J-Edit EITHER with MIDI-Yoke installed, OR while SONAR has selected the SW1000 MIDI In/SW1000 MIDI Out, then J-Edit displays the message:
"An invalid parameter was passed to a system function",
followed by:
"Looking for J-Station on Default MIDI Ports"
(but then nothing happens, it just "hangs" there).
Any helpful advice would be very much appreciated!
Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to include everything that I though my be relevant to the issue.
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