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Tintin72
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Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« on: Mar 9th, 2007, 1:07pm » |
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Hi all,
I'm newbie with MidiOx, but it seems to be a great tool. 
The thing I wanna do is to translate the datas incoming from the modulation wheel (CC#1) of my midi keyboard into expression datas (CC#11).
But in the "event type" box (in the define mapping panel) I just can't find mod wheel (or something like that).
Can anyone tells me what kind of event do I should select ?
Thanks for advance
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #1 on: Mar 9th, 2007, 2:57pm » |
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MOD Wheel (modulation) is defined as CC:1. Choose Ctrl 1 (Controller 1). Expression is CC:11 as you indicate (Ctrl 11).
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megalodon
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #2 on: May 17th, 2007, 7:25pm » |
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on Mar 9th, 2007, 1:07pm, Tintin72 wrote:Hi all,
I'm newbie with MidiOx, but it seems to be a great tool.
The thing I wanna do is to translate the datas incoming from the modulation wheel (CC#1) of my midi keyboard into expression datas (CC#11).
But in the "event type" box (in the define mapping panel) I just can't find mod wheel (or something like that).
Can anyone tells me what kind of event do I should select ?
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Hello,
I want to do something similar but a little bit more complicated:
I want my modwheel (CC#1) to change the hihat-openness (expression CC#4, in understand) in a drumkit that is loaded as a VST plugin in Cubase SX1. So in Cubase, midi IN is my keyboard en midi OUT is HAlion player with the drums in it. I don't know exactly where MIDI Yoke fits in here...
In MIDI-OX, MIDI devices, i've got my usb keyboard as an input and as output i've choosen MIDI Yoke 1, wich is also displayed in the Port mapping window.
In Define Mapping I got:
When Input matches:
Channel:Any
Event Type: Ctrl
min Ctrl # Max: 1
min Amount max: 0 / 127
Set Output to:
Channel: Match Input
Event Type: Match Input
min Ctrl # Max: 4
min Amount max: 0 / 127
Does anybody know what to do next in Cubase, or perhaps in FL studio (7) ?
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Peter L Jones
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #3 on: May 18th, 2007, 9:48am » |
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What you've done is take data from a MIDI Input, transformed it and written it to a MIDI Output. That MIDI Output is MIDI Yoke, which is making the data available at a MIDI Input. You need to read that MIDI Input (the MIDI Yoke one) in another application to get at the transformed data.
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megalodon
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #4 on: May 19th, 2007, 2:54pm » |
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on May 18th, 2007, 9:48am, Peter L Jones wrote:| What you've done is take data from a MIDI Input, transformed it and written it to a MIDI Output. That MIDI Output is MIDI Yoke, which is making the data available at a MIDI Input. You need to read that MIDI Input (the MIDI Yoke one) in another application to get at the transformed data. |
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Thanks Peter; must be hard to explain yourself to a n00b
I understand what I did wrong. The current situation is that CC#4 doesn't do anything at all in the MIDI status window in MIDI OX and has no effect on the hihats either.
I tested with HALion Player (standalone) and selected MIDI Yoke 1 as input instead of my usb keyboard. So it's cool to see that MIDI Yoke works, in this case of CC#4, efficiently disabling my modwheel worked fine  It's just that that wasn't exactly what I had in mind 
I also succeeded to turn my modwheel into a pitchwheel and also to assign Expression to it using CC #11, wich was visible in MIDI OX' MIDI Status window, but didn't do anything to the hihats either.
I know you from the NaturalStudio forum (I'm RD, I'm sure you've guessed by now) and I noticed that hihat14_stx_pdchk is half closed by default. Have you noticed this also?
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Peter L Jones
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #5 on: May 19th, 2007, 7:00pm » |
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Just clicked, RD... and you've answered the questions I asked over on KVR here! 
There's a bit extra over there: getting the "no effect" link set up first before trying anything fancy. I've also suggested making sure the "pass thru original event" is selected, which might also help.
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megalodon
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #6 on: May 19th, 2007, 8:35pm » |
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on May 19th, 2007, 7:00pm, Peter L Jones wrote:Just clicked, RD... and you've answered the questions I asked over on KVR here!
There's a bit extra over there: getting the "no effect" link set up first before trying anything fancy. I've also suggested making sure the "pass thru original event" is selected, which might also help. |
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Ok, thanks again for putting op with all this. I answered over at NS... basiscly with doing what you've told me, the modwheel keeps functioning as a modwheel (with CC #4).
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megalodon
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Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
« Reply #7 on: May 21st, 2007, 5:08pm » |
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update:
Everything works !!! thank you again Peter!!! The settings were fine; just human ignorance that caused the problem.
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