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Roland SPD-20, FD-8, Addictive Drums & Cubase
« on: Sep 25th, 2008, 8:59am »
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I've read lots of the posts online but I'm afraid I am still struggling to create the correct configuration.  My set up is:
 
Presonus Firebox audio/midi interface
Cubase Studio 4 (Windows XP SP3)
Roland SPD-20 percussion pad
Roland FD-8 hi-hat peddle
XLN Addictive Drums
Midi-OX
Midi-Yoke
eDrum Midi Mapper
 
I am trying to connect the SPD-20 and FD-8 to the eDrum Midi Mapper so that I can transform/map the midi notes that get played by XLN Addictive Drums (in particular, open/closed hi-hat variations).
 
Question 1
Do I need both Midi-OX and Midi-Yoke for this setup or just Midi-Yoke?
 
Question 2
What should the setup look like.  I would have thought it could be:
 
A. If no use of Midi-OX:
eDrum Midi Mapper input set to Midi Yoke 1, eDrum Midi Mapper output set to Midi Yoke 2
But then what special settings do I need to make on Cubase.  If XLN Addictive Drums is set up as an instrument (as it usually is), do I specify the Midi Input as Midi Yoke 2 while making sure that in the Device Setup Midi Menu within Cubase, Midi Yoke 1 is specified as a midi output?
 
or have I misunderstood what's going on with Midi and should it be:
 
B.  Use Midi-OX and Midi-Yoke.
Midi-OX input set to Presonus Firebox Midi input
Midi-OX output set to Midi Yoke 1
eDrum Midi Mapper input set to Midi Yoke 1, eDrum Midi Mapper output set to Midi Yoke 2
Midi-OX input set to ??
Midi-OX output set to Presonus Firebox Midi output
 
As you can tell I am making a real hash of this and could really do with some good advice.
 
Many many thanks in advance.
 
PS
When I make the configuration - do I always have to do so before opening Cubase?  I regularly get messages saying that either the Presonus midi input or midi output (depending on which I try to connect) is already being used by another application (i.e. Cubase) and that I should close that application and try again?
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Re: Roland SPD-20, FD-8, Addictive Drums & Cub
« Reply #1 on: Sep 25th, 2008, 1:19pm »
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On your final point: for most MIDI interfaces, only one program can access them at once (which makes a fair degree of sense, although MIDI Yoke doesn't have this constraint).
 
It's usually easier to start by drawing it out on paper and I can see you've had a stab at it.
 
You've got some external hardware.  That's plugged in to your Firebox:
[External h/w MIDI Out] -> [FireBox MIDI In]
 
You want eDrum MIDI Mapper to handle the input from the hardware, so it needs to receive the data:
[FireBox MIDI In] -> [eDrum MIDI Mapper]
 
You then need to send the data somewhere.  If it were external hardware, you'd do:
[eDrum MIDI Mapper] -> [FireBox MIDI Out]
but you want to connect to Cubase, which is software.  This is where MIDI Yoke comes in.  You need a "virtual cable".
[eDrum MIDI Mapper] -> [Out to MIDI Yoke 1]
 
So then into Cubase:
[In from MIDI Yoke 1] -> [Cubase]
 
If you're hosting Addictive Drums in Cubase, then you're done.
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Re: Roland SPD-20, FD-8, Addictive Drums & Cub
« Reply #2 on: Sep 26th, 2008, 5:46am »
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Dear Peter,
 
Many thanks and what an embarrassingly easy solution.  Tried your recommendation last night and it worked perfectly.
 
This is just what the web should be for - people helping each other for positive ends!
 
Thanks again and kind regards.
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