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Mapping with a variable?
« on: Aug 9th, 2009, 6:58am »
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Hi,
 
I have recently mapped my ER1 Mk2 electribe to control ableton live. Currently I can sequence on the ER1, all the part keys for the different drums can be midi assigned in ableton to instruments etc and all of the knobs and buttons can be assigned in ableton.
 
However currently the knobs and buttons that I used to effect the sound of each of the part keys only has one output value, regardless of which part I select. So basically when I have my 8 parts mapped in ableton, I can only assign the control of the knobs and buttons to effect one of the 8 parts in ableton as it only has one output value.
 
What I want to be able to do is; when I press a part key a specific channel value will be given to each of knobs and buttons which is unique for each of the 8 parts. This will allow me to map the knobs to control the effects for each part key individually in ableton.
 
I greatly appreciate any help as I am a new user and everything seems to take ages to get working at the moment!
 
Andy
 
 
 
PS - this is the instructions i have followed so far
 
First things first, the only buttons that will work right after you hook it up to ableton are the part keys.(i.e. where you samples are arrnaged and selected on the korg) all the other knobs and faders will not.
 
These knobs and faders do send information. If you havn't tried already, try to midi map a knob into ableton. Any knob will send a CC# (controller change) normally either 6/....or98/, followed by some more information.... these are useless without being properly translated, and in reality are NRPN(
 
Step 1 = Get MIDI-OX and MIDI Yoke installed on your computer. Detailed instructions can be found at midiox.com.
 
Step 2 = After these programs have been installed, hook up your electribe to your computer via your MIDI connection.
 
Step 3 = Open up MIDIOX, and go to options at the top, click on MIDI devices. You should see your input MIDI device on the list. Select your IN device and then select and OUT device(a MIDI YOKE channel). We have setup a kind of translation bay. NRPN will come in on the INPUT, translated, spit back OUT immediately on the OUTPUT. Close this list.
 
Step 4 = Open up a input and output monitor in MIDI-OX, if all is connected properly you should see the input start scrolling. I came to believe this is my korgs timeclock. Now the fun begins.
 
Step 5 = Click on view>MIDI status..this will open up a sort map. Move a knob on your electribe and look in this map. a NRPN # and min-maxrange will show up. The range is almost 99% always 0-16256. Ok so we now have the NRPN # and range for one of your knobs, write these down, i swear it will help.
 
Step 6 = Now, with this information we can start translating this knobs NRPN to a usable CC signal. Click options and then data mapping. This will open up a translation map. Nothing should be checked in here except, (TURN MAP ON). Click on insert.
 
Step 7 = After clicking insert it will bring up Define Mapping window. Do as follows
 
WHEN INPUT MATCHES
Channel=Any Event=NRPN Min1=NRPN # Max1=(same NRPN as before) Min2=0 Max2=16256
WHEN OUTPUT MATCHES
Channel=Any Event=Controller Change Min1=AnyCC you want 1-97(excluding 6,98, and the channel you are sending on) Max1=the same CC as Min1 Min2=0 Max2=127
 
Click ok.
 
Step 8 = to check move the knob, make sure you are still getting chages on the input monitor. ( the turn map on after ok button) had to be checked or the data mapping will no be turned on. We have now taken a unusable NRPN and converted it to a usable CC.
 
Last step is to open Ableton and setup your MIDI options to recieve on all channels. You also have to go into the MIDI options and on whatever MIDI yoke channel you used( i used 1) make sure the sync and remote keys are solid. Now, turn midi mapping on, click on a parameter and move your knob. If all went well it will show up as whatever CC you assigned it. Have fun.
 
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Re: Mapping with a variable?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 21st, 2009, 1:01am »
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Sorry, but I had difficulty understanding that.  However, you can assign a different mapping line, per channel -- it is the first parameter in the mapping dialog.
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