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Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« on: Dec 19th, 2002, 6:57pm »
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Hi All, I've been going for it here.
What I do is "select/highlight all tracks I wanna PLAY in Cubase SX and the I HAVE to input transform each one to receive ONLY on one channel. That's cool. it's already set to play out on 1 channel though to get it to ignor all others it seems i have to use the input transform. easy one though.
 
NOW: I want to use the m-OX to do keysplits...easy as well... AND, I want to have the ability to send any of the 16 channels for each of my 4 out ports (dedicated MT4 4chan midiface for keyboard/M-OX) to any of these pre channelized (input transformed) Cubase SX Highlighted, live play ready VST instanced tracks.
 
I bet I missed one here and spaced out. yet I can't seem to get the different ports to play on all 16 channels DISCRETELY.
 
if I want to have only 4 channels per M-OX port then, cause I have a 4 port interface for the OX and my keybaord I CAN do port mapping and DELETE 12 or the "channels" for each of the 4 ports so that when i'm done I have a total of 16 channels spread over 4 ports.... equals 16 channels total.
 
 
IS there a way around this.   i'm UP on the patch change with DATA and PORT mapping which is awesome....
 
the sending all to all ports is a crippler at this point as the mental gymnastiucs requirements between SXD and the OX could do my head in before I play a note....
 
 
Ideas greatly...um... make that VERY GREATLY appreciated.
 
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #1 on: Dec 20th, 2002, 7:54am »
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I may have found a plan that I'm ok with. After all the fantastic learning I've realized that BEFORE I began to use M-OX again I had my keyboard going into my 8x8 midi router (MSB+) then all 8 of it's outputs going to the Unitor8 inputs. then I had planned to simply sens a patch change to the MSB+ and I would have it programmed to turn on "routing" to whatever input on the Unitor8 that I wanted Cubase SX to SEE.
 
problem is that keysplits would not be available this was as Cubase SX CAN do keysplits with it's per track input thing.
ONLY One split thoough and IF I'd put the two track in a folder the folder wouldn't highlight the way I wanted it to.
 
Gasp....
 
 
So, after 3 romantic days and nights with the SOXY OX i've done the following.... UNTIL I find an ALL software (so to speak) way with the OX.
 
Keyboard > dedicated MT4 rounting IN and OUT of ONE output ONLY. I will use DATA MAPPING ONLY at this time unless I've missed a trick.
 
The MT4 output one goes to an input on the MSB+ midi router which is setup just like I'd originally planned. All the MSB outputs going to ALL tyhe Unitor8 inputs.
Now a program change to thre MT4 loads a DATA MAP for the OX, she sends on a program change to the MSB+ which decides which outputs to turn on when going to the Unitor8.
 
OX does keysplits and other clever things.
MSB does Port mapping.
 
ANY other Ideas GREATLY appreciated.
AND NOW I want to find out all the WAYS to do things
with the OX as far as DATA mapping goes!
 
BEST WISHES to ALL.
 
Does the above seem like the best plan for now?
 
 
 
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #2 on: Dec 21st, 2002, 1:14pm »
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Your solution sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure there's a specific question there?
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #3 on: Dec 21st, 2002, 1:50pm »
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Thanks Jamie. it's only the port mapping that i've let the MSB to Unitor handle.
 
ideally I'd have the ox DECIDE WHICH OF THE mt4 PORTS IT WOULD SEND KEYSPLITS and THE PORT OF CHOICE TO.
 
oop hit the CapsLock key!
 
sorry.
 
At present there's no way to send to a specific port other than to load a different port map and then it's a matter of having to share 16 channels as I can't send discreatly....  
 
Is that RIGHT?
 
if I want to have only 4 channels per M-OX port then, cause I have a 4 port interface for the OX and my keybaord I CAN do port mapping and DELETE 12 or the "channels" for each of the 4 ports so that when i'm done I have a total of 16 channels spread over 4 ports.... equals 16 channels total.  
 
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
 
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #4 on: Dec 21st, 2002, 2:36pm »
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At present there's no way to send to a specific port other than to load a different port map and then it's a matter of having to share 16 channels as I can't send discreatly....  
 
Is that RIGHT?  

 
You can load a Port Map by selecting it in the MIDI Devices dialog or by triggering it with a Patch Map.  You are correct except that, as you pointed out below, you can control which input channels are used in the port map by expanding the input port and deleting channels, or by dragging channels up from the Port Map Objects window.  And then resave the preset.
   
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if I want to have only 4 channels per M-OX port then, cause I have a 4 port interface for the OX and my keybaord I CAN do port mapping and DELETE 12 or the "channels" for each of the 4 ports so that when i'm done I have a total of 16 channels spread over 4 ports.... equals 16 channels total.

 
Right, and you can save that configurqation as a different preset (or overwrite the original)
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #5 on: Dec 21st, 2002, 10:20pm »
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Cool....
um, can I have 16 discrete channels on each port?
addressed seperately from in[put to output..
 
OR on a 4 out interface: would channel port 1 chans 1,2,3,4 interfere with port 2  chan s 1.2.3.4?
 
groovy here..
 
i now only need to understand the seperateness of the port mapping and I'm cool till the next big thing  with the OX!
 
 
twerp!
 
greatly apprecaite the time taken ...
 
ho ho ho and all that!
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Re: Port Mapping tentative Conclusions/questionz
« Reply #6 on: Dec 30th, 2002, 1:20pm »
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If I understand your question correctly: Yes, you can have 16 discrete channels on each In to Out port combination.  For instance, if you have In1 attached to both Out1 and Out2, you could have channel 1 go to Out1, and channels 1, 2, and 3 go to Out2.  Or any other combination.
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