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MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« on: Dec 19th, 2011, 1:09am » |
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Hi all,
I sure hope someone can help me. I am using a program called Zenedit (http://www.nebiru.com/zenedit/) , in conjunction with my Zendrum Midi triggering device(www.zendrum.com) for playing my Roland TDW20 Drum module. I have had no issues in the recent past with transmitting MIDI in or out. I didn't use MIDI Ox or the Zenedit program for a while, but in trying to use it this weekend, I find I can dump MIDI from my Zendrum to my PC (MIDI In), but I cannot seem to get the Zendrum to recognize information coming from the PC (MIDI Out). The Zendrum is showing that it is receiving a signal, but when I go to save the downloaded sysex file on the zendrum, it does not save it properly. I suspect because it does not recognize that new information has been downloaded.
I had this issue about a year ago, but fixed the issue as follows: <From the main menu, select "Options" and then "Configure Buffers". For "Low Level Output Buffers" change the "Size" to 128 and the "Num" to 32.> After we did this I had no more issues until now.
The program did work previously so I am wondering if there is something I did within MIDI OX that would stop the program from uploading as it has done.
Any insight would be gratefully appreciated. I already checked with the Zenedit and the Zendrum Gurus, and they really weren't sure of the exact nature of the problem.
Thanks,
Randtor
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #1 on: Dec 19th, 2011, 5:18am » |
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Try adjusting the delay time.
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"...Playing fast around the drums is one thing. But to play with people for others, to listen to, that's something else. That's a whole other world." -- Tony Williams
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #2 on: Dec 19th, 2011, 4:39pm » |
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Peter,
Thanks for the suggestion, I tried going from 60 to 120, no difference. I also tried it at 180, and even went the other way to make it faster, at 30; no help in any direction.
Is it possible that the Alesis MIDI cable is not working properly? I didn't have to load any drivers initially as it apparently comes with some type of internal driver, and it is essentially plug and play. And as I said, it worked quite well before this.
I see where the zendrum is 'seeing' the info coming from MIDI OX, I just am not sure it is recognizing it, almost like the file is corrupted or something.
Anything else I could try with MIDI OX that might have an impact?
Thanks,
Rand
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #3 on: Dec 20th, 2011, 6:27am » |
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If the file looks okay in the ZenEdit program, it's probably not corrupt but could you try getting an alternative file to send?
The settings I use when sending to my TrapKAT are -
Transmit: 128 bytes, 512 buffers; 32ms between buffers
If you can't get it working, you could try an alternate MIDI cable - I always recommend the Edirol UM-1ex, though I don't think it's made any more.
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #4 on: Dec 21st, 2011, 12:08am » |
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Hey Peter,
Thanks for the suggestions again, but no joy. I changed the # from 32 to 512, and got no difference. I think there is a communication problem here. The MIDI signal is definitely being transmitted, my little light on the zendrum goes on to tell me it is receiving info, but when it finishes and I try to save that info, the program on the zendrum defaults back to another area without showing the "SA", or 'Save' function happening.
So I am guessing at this point, that even though the zendrum is receiving a stream of data, it is not recognizable. Perhaps the Alesis software is not functioning, but there is now way to tell since it is built in somehow to the cable apparatus.
Unless you or anyone else can come up with another scenario that might be causing this, my next move, I think by default, is to pick up another MIDI IN-OUT / USB cable and try it out.
I am in communication with Dave at the Zendrum Company, he is extremely helpful. Their customer support is beyond belief. he is doing everthing possible on his end to help me out. Also, Darin, who is a zendrummer and wrote the "Zendedit" program, is also making suggestions. He is a terrific resource, and has helped me tremendously in the past. All signs seem to point to the cables... at least, we think!!
Dave is mailing me a spare set of cables he used (MidiSport Uno), and I'll let you know the outcome when I try those out.
Cheers,
Rand
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #5 on: Dec 31st, 2011, 1:09pm » |
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A quick update....
Peter, thanks or your suggestions. As it turned out, MIDI OX was not the problem. The program I was using to set up my zendrum, called Zenedit, had a few minor bugs that the engineer knew existed but felt they would never be an issue. As it turns out, I found the perfect combination of trigger setups that caused the 'bugs' to become active. Leave it to me to find "The Perfect Storm", lol! I sent him my file and he was stunned that he had the same problems on his end. He said he would not have believed it was possible if he hadn't seen it with his own equipment. End result, he had just finished a new update, so I downloaded that new version (a Beta version, but really clean) and voila everything worked as expected.
Darin (http://www.zenedit.com/) and Dave (http://www.zendrum.com/) were extremely supportive, attentive and concerned. Thankully the issue is resolved and I can now get crackin' and set up my gear! I also have a new set of vdrums coming(www.diamondelectronicdrums.com) which I am going to run off of my Roland TDW20. Looking forward to the new year!
Thanks again or your suggestions.
Cheers,
Rand
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Re: MIDI In, good; MIDI Out not, so much!
« Reply #6 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 7:33am » |
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Good news! It's always a relief when someone eventually goes "well blow me down, it's ..." and comes up with a solution.
Have a great new year.
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