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sending clock and start stop
« on: Apr 24th, 2015, 7:58am »
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I have a bass station 2 and a new moog sub 37. I have clock and start stop on in the moog. I would like to put an arp sequence in the bass station, that is set to receive. in midi ox I have the moog as an output device and the bass station 2 as an input.
 
for some reason I had expected the bass station 2 to play its arp when a note is played on the moog.
 
The question relates to the midi ox as I am a beginner with it.
 
so have I setup the software ok?
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Re: sending clock and start stop
« Reply #1 on: Apr 24th, 2015, 10:17pm »
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So, if I have got the picure correctly you have the Moog as the timing master and the Novation as the slave.
 
I assume the sub 37 has a USB port and acts as a Midi interface. I know the Novation does.
 
Moog -> Novation should be all you need.
When you play the Moog does the Novation sound at all?
 
To check to see what is happening you can put MidiOx in between
Moog -> MidiOx -> Novation.
 
Set up MidiOx's window with the Input and Output Monitors as well as the Midi Port Routing window (use View menu option)  
Now on the MidiPort Routing window connect the In from the Moog to the out on the Novation (if these are not visible go to Options/ MIDI devices and select them)  
Play the Moog and note data should appear on MidiOx's Input Monitor windows. No? then the Moog must have a setting that is preventing the data output and your will have to turn it on.
 
The connection you made on the Routing window should make the data go to the Output monitor and off to the Novation.
If this is all OK check to see what the Midi channel coming out of the Moog is.
 
If the Input monitor's display of the Moog's note data is not showing a number in the 90's for the status then the display is in decimal mode.
Right click on the monitor window on and select Display Hex  
 
It doesn't matter if you don't know hex, it is just an easier to work out what channel you are on if you look at it in hex.
 
Look at the column with Status as the label.
90 = channel 1
91 = channel 2
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99 = channel 10
9A = channel 11
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9F = channel 16
(The 9 mean it is a Note on message and Note On with Data2 = 0 is the the same as Note off message)
So the Midi channel that the Moog is sending must match the channel the Novation wants to receive.
Look in the Global section of the Novation to adjust it.
 
While you are there, if the Bass Station is like the UltraNova, then you can set the Arp Midi Config setting to Midi In->Arp and set you clock source to Ext-Auto
 
 
Your Arp need to be turned on  
 
Hope that helps
Royce
 
 
 
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Re: sending clock and start stop
« Reply #2 on: Apr 25th, 2015, 2:04am »
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thats very helpful, i did all that and the bs2 is receiving the tempo as the arp control is fixed at the same rate as the moog now. whats not happening is the bs2 wont start its sequence, it appears I have to play notes for the sequencer to start on the bs2.
 
in fact the ultranova wont do that either.
 
I had the devices on different channels deliberately so the moogs notes wouldnt play out the the bass station 2.
 
anyway your advice has got me over the learning hurdle with midi ox thank you for being attentive and sending a speedy response.
 
 
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