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Problema with midi connection
« on: May 11th, 2021, 7:12pm »
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 So I'm going to perform a thing with some of my friends this friday. It's something we all composed together and as I'm the one with the producing experience I translated what we did into synths with FL Studio using the good old piano roll with the pencil tool. So I bought a generic midi to usb cable that would arrive before firday to perform live, but I can't set this up for the life of me I swear to god.
 
  I tried looking for help on some other forums and I tried a number of different things which all got me closer to what I wanted but I'm not quite there. A very important piece of inffo is that my keyboard is a Yamaha PR-E233, I know it's old but it never dissapointed me in years (up till now apparently). I'll do this chronologically so you can follow it better.
 
*  So when the cable got here, I immediately connected it to my pc and keyboard (IN to OUT-OUT to IN) and googled for some drivers, tried to install them but I got error 25001, which said there was no midi keyboard connected to the computer.
   *  I look at my device manager, it's there, but to be safe I unplug it and plug it back in. Still not installing, I think that's weird but I follow on to see if it works without the drivers.
* I try to use it on FL Studio
   * Nothing
* I go back to google to look for a way to install the drivers and I find a forum thread saying I don't need it for the PR-E233.
* At this point I suspect the cables might be mislabled or something and switch them (now they're at OUT to OUT-IN to IN, which hurts to say)
   * It kind of worked, so I'm assuming the cables meant to in or are just mislabled, I did get a feed both from the keyboard and to the keyboard, the problem being, the feed FROM the keyboard can only play one note at a time and I'm absolutely not getting note offs, only note ons  (This was checked by a midi-ox log) which turn off (Still without a note off registering on the log) after 8 to 12 seconds which is when I can play a single note again, making it unusable
* I go to the forums again, this time they tell me I was having a problem with active sensing, which was overloading the feed and making it so that the computer can't process the notes. The midi-ox log seems to agree because active sensing is constantly sending info drowining out the notes so I turn on the midi filters that midi-ox has (I tried with the "Filter out data as well as display" box on and off).
   * The log doesn't show the active sensing anymore, but I'm still getting the one note every 10 seconds thing
 
  And that's where I'm at. At this point the forums are saying I'm gonna need a new midi interface or even a new keyboard but I'd really like to avoid that since I don't have the time or money for it so is there anything AT ALL I can do?
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Re: Problema with midi connection
« Reply #1 on: May 12th, 2021, 3:00am »
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Hi
Midi Out socket always connects to Midi In socket on the other device.
 
1) Is the MIDI device  

a) It uses the Microsoft driver that came with windows
b) I have had about 6 of these given to me and most didn't work
c) The IN and OUT cables could have been swapped and connect back to front
 
You may never get it working - sorry, but change now - M-Audio Uno is a good choice or a cheap Behringer ?
 
These come with a driver (although I think the Behringer can use the MS one as well). Buy any well known brand.
 
In FL the Midi device will NOT appear as your Keyboard ("Yamaha PR-E33") but most likely something like "Audio Device"
If it is in the FL Midi device list that is likely to be the correct MS driver.
The Yamaha PR-E233 has no drivers because it has no USB. Midi drivers are for USB Midi devices only.
Checkout page 31 of the manual for a good picture of how it should be connected.  
(Download a pdf if you can't find your copy  https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/5/322075/psre233_en_o m_b0.pdf)
 
The massive amount of Midi data you had was probably due to the incorrect Midi cabling.
 
Best of luck
Royce
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