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microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« on: Nov 5th, 2022, 2:08am » |
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Hey so i just got a microkorg and it works well and ive even made things with it in my daw. But now im trying to send it sysex files on midi ox and whenever i send a file over it does not give me an error a couple lines of code goes by then nothing changes it just doesnt load over even though it says it does. so confused.
ex: if the sysex is 297 it looks like it only sends 41
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #1 on: Nov 5th, 2022, 7:09pm » |
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Hi
Before we get into Midi itself you need to make some setting changes on the Korg.
From page 55 of the manual...
"If you want the microKORG to receive a data dump,
turn the SHIFT function "WRITE PROTECT" OFF ( ),
and set the MIDI FILTER setting "SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE" to Enable ( ).
If this is set to Disable ( ), data dumps can not be received."
There are two forms of numbers used in MidiOx.
Decimal is the one you are use to eg fourty one is 4 x ten and a single unit ie 41
Hexadecimal is great for computers - and MIDI 41 is in hex is 4 x 16 (64) plus 1 x 1 which = 65
Right click in the Input or Output Monitor window to change it. The if menu option is be 'Display Hex' click it to show the numbers in Hexadecimal and if it is 'Display Decimal' click it for decimal.
So the biggest number you can have 255 (0xFF is hex) because Midi is only 8bit.
So you can't have 297
Numbers above 127 to 255 are used to say what kind of MIDI message it is and is called "status byte".
Note On is 144 (0x90)
Continuous Controller is 176 (0xB0)
See the 0 at the end of the hex number of the status byte, that is the channel in many Midi message types. The hex 0 to F is really Channel 1 to 16
This is one of the reasons Hex is great (but hurts your head) for Midi.
To make this all work the actual value (the data numbers) are always between 0 and 127 (always less than 0x80 )
So in sysex you should see the message type F0 (240) - channel is not used in status bytes starting with F and are all called system messages.
So you should see the start of the sysex (from page 55 of the manual)
"microKORG format
F0: exclusive status
42: Korg ID
3n: [n=0—F] MIDI channel
58: microKORG model ID (same as MS2000/MS2000R) ff: function ID (type of message)
—---- Data bytes for values go in here
F7: end of exclusive"
I hope this helps.
Post again if you need some more help.
All the best
Royce
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #2 on: Nov 6th, 2022, 3:57pm » |
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royce brother you are a godsend alot of this was alittle confusing wish u could just take over my computer hahai got all the bytes to send now but my midi isnt reciving them i changed the midi ox settings and microkorg settings and am just not receving them now on my micro korg is there a possibility where i could screenshare my issue to you?
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #3 on: Nov 6th, 2022, 4:06pm » |
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i also just changed the midi channel to match still nothing
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #4 on: Nov 6th, 2022, 7:40pm » |
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It is absolutely confusing when you first start. The benefit is that your head grows to twice its current size.
Let's start with your setup...
What version of Windows are you using?
What is the make and model of your Midi Interface?
Cables always go Out of one device to In of the other device (MIDI and audio) - MIDI thru is an Out
Here is the info from page 62 of the manual on a data dump.
"Reception procedure
Use the following procedure when you want to return previously-saved data from a connected MIDI data filer or
computer back to the microKORG, or to receive data from another microKORG unit.
1 Connect the microKORG's MIDI IN connector to the MIDI OUT connector of the device that will transmit the MIDI dump data.
2 Set the MIDI channel of the transmit- ting device to match the microKORG's MIDI channel.
If you previously transmitted data to an external MIDI device and want to receive it into the microKORG, set the microKORG's MIDI channel to the same setting as
when it originally transmitted the data.
3 Set the SHIFT function MIDI FILTER "SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE" to Enable. (➝p.60)
Turn "WRITE PROTECT" OFF (➝p.63).
4 Transmit the data from the MIDI data filer or other device. For the transmis- sion procedure, refer to the manual of the device you are using."
Post again with the details and I'll try to help some more
All the best
Royce
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #5 on: Nov 6th, 2022, 9:02pm » |
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Hey so i have all the cabels configuered correctly because it will play sound in window and in my daw and give me notifications when i press keys/select sounds and i have those settings on!
i have usb midi interface (some random one)
and then i have a midi face 2x2 which im trying right now i can get sound out of both
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #6 on: Nov 7th, 2022, 2:09am » |
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I have been given many of these....
Some didn't work at all, some didn't work with sysex. I didn't ever have one that that worked OK.
If yours i like that, buy two DIN plugs , chop off the cables from the interface and make two short Midi cables.
Microsoft Midi drivers cause a lot of problems especially with old synths. Make sure you have a interface with good DOWNLOADABLE or CD drivers. eg Roland Yamaha M-Audio Behringer etc
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #7 on: Nov 7th, 2022, 9:41pm » |
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ok bare with me i just got a new nice interface today with drivers ect now i can send prg with sound editor but the sysex still is giving me nothing on midi ox? this is so frustrating haha if there is no way it works can i convert sysex to prg
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #8 on: Nov 7th, 2022, 10:13pm » |
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it could possibly by the midi channel thing because thats confusing to me but thats all i can think of really im lost
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #9 on: Nov 8th, 2022, 5:54pm » |
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OK
Options / Midi Devices select your new MIDI Input and Output and click OK.
In the MIDI Port Routing window (menu View/Port Routings...) you should see your interface's Input the left column and the Output on the right.
Drag a connection from the MIDI-OX Event port on the bottom left to your interface on the right.
On the bottom left of the MidiOx ap is a tool bar with SYX.
If it is off (grey button) then click it on
If it is highlighted (blue on my PC) click it off (to grey) then back on.
In MidiOx click on menu View / Sysex... and a new window pops up.
In the new window's menu click File/Send Sysex File... and select the file you want to send to the Korg.
The sysex data in the file should be displayed in the Output Monitor window as it is sent from the Midi-OX Event Port to your interface's Out.
To receive data from the Korg, in the same Sysex window click Sysex/ Receieve Manual Dump...
Select a name and where you want to save it - click OK.
A little box pops up and wait for you to send the data from the Korg (MidiOx listens on all Midi Input ports.)
The number n the box should start to count up the number of bytes.
Once it has stopped, the file has been received.
Click OK to close the small box and you are done.
Are we getting closer?
All the best
Royce
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #10 on: Nov 8th, 2022, 7:48pm » |
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https://gyazo.com/389a69716d798041ffb022c5dbbc561e
this is whatt my port menu looks like its not letting me drag anything new it doesnt connect any new lines
sys on bottom is on and no change when i turn off and on
ur are the best for replying everyday i really want to figure this out haha
no change so far
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #11 on: Nov 8th, 2022, 7:50pm » |
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i also get no bytes recived for dump
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Re: microkorg midi ox troubles :/
« Reply #12 on: Nov 8th, 2022, 7:55pm » |
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mby that could be the issue on hand
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