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(Message started by: Tintin72 on Mar 9th, 2007, 1:07pm)
Title: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by Tintin72 on Mar 9th, 2007, 1:07pm
Hi all,

I'm newbie with MidiOx, but it seems to be a great tool. :)
The thing I wanna do is to translate the datas incoming from the modulation wheel (CC#1) of my midi keyboard into expression datas (CC#11).
But in the "event type" box (in the define mapping panel) I just can't find mod wheel (or something like that).
Can anyone tells me what kind of event do I should select ?

Thanks for advance
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by Jamie OConnell on Mar 9th, 2007, 2:57pm
MOD Wheel (modulation) is defined as CC:1.  Choose Ctrl 1 (Controller 1).  Expression is CC:11 as you indicate (Ctrl 11).

MOXMAP Version 5

[Map]
*,Ctrl,1,*,*,*,N,0,*,Ctrl,11,*,*,*
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by megalodon on May 17th, 2007, 7:25pm

on 03/09/07 at 13:07:21, Tintin72 wrote:
Hi all,

I'm newbie with MidiOx, but it seems to be a great tool. :)
The thing I wanna do is to translate the datas incoming from the modulation wheel (CC#1) of my midi keyboard into expression datas (CC#11).
But in the "event type" box (in the define mapping panel) I just can't find mod wheel (or something like that).
Can anyone tells me what kind of event do I should select ?

Thanks for advance


Hello,

I want to do something similar but a little bit more complicated:

I want my modwheel (CC#1) to change the hihat-openness (expression CC#4, in understand) in a drumkit that is loaded as a VST plugin in Cubase SX1. So in Cubase, midi IN is my keyboard en midi OUT is HAlion player with the drums in it. I don't know exactly where MIDI Yoke fits in here...

In MIDI-OX, MIDI devices, i've got my usb keyboard as an input and as output i've choosen MIDI Yoke 1, wich is also displayed in the Port mapping window.

In Define Mapping I got:

When Input matches:
Channel:Any
Event Type: Ctrl
min Ctrl # Max: 1
min Amount max: 0 / 127

Set Output to:
Channel: Match Input
Event Type: Match Input
min Ctrl # Max: 4
min Amount max: 0 / 127

Does anybody know what to do next in Cubase, or perhaps in FL studio (7) ?
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by Peter L Jones on May 18th, 2007, 9:48am
What you've done is take data from a MIDI Input, transformed it and written it to a MIDI Output.  That MIDI Output is MIDI Yoke, which is making the data available at a MIDI Input.  You need to read that MIDI Input (the MIDI Yoke one) in another application to get at the transformed data.
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by megalodon on May 19th, 2007, 2:54pm

on 05/18/07 at 09:48:31, Peter L Jones wrote:
What you've done is take data from a MIDI Input, transformed it and written it to a MIDI Output.  That MIDI Output is MIDI Yoke, which is making the data available at a MIDI Input.  You need to read that MIDI Input (the MIDI Yoke one) in another application to get at the transformed data.


Thanks Peter; must be hard to explain yourself to a n00b :)

I understand what I did wrong. The current situation is that CC#4 doesn't do anything at all in the MIDI status window in MIDI OX and has no effect on the hihats either.

I tested with HALion Player (standalone) and selected MIDI Yoke 1 as input instead of my usb keyboard. So it's cool to see that MIDI Yoke works, in this case of CC#4, efficiently disabling my modwheel worked fine ;) It's just that that wasn't exactly what I had in mind  :-/

I also succeeded to turn my modwheel into a pitchwheel and also to assign Expression to it using CC #11, wich was visible in MIDI OX' MIDI Status window, but didn't do anything to the hihats either.

I know you from the NaturalStudio forum (I'm RD, I'm sure you've guessed by now) and I noticed that hihat14_stx_pdchk is half closed by default. Have you noticed this also?
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by Peter L Jones on May 19th, 2007, 7:00pm
Just clicked, RD... and you've answered the questions I asked over on KVR here!  ::)  ;)

There's a bit extra over there: getting the "no effect" link set up first before trying anything fancy.  I've also suggested making sure the "pass thru original event" is selected, which might also help.
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by megalodon on May 19th, 2007, 8:35pm

on 05/19/07 at 19:00:18, Peter L Jones wrote:
Just clicked, RD... and you've answered the questions I asked over on KVR here!  ::)  ;)

There's a bit extra over there: getting the "no effect" link set up first before trying anything fancy.  I've also suggested making sure the "pass thru original event" is selected, which might also help.


Ok, thanks again for putting op with all this. I answered over at NS... basiscly with doing what you've told me, the modwheel keeps functioning as a modwheel (with CC #4).
Title: Re: Translate modulation wheel datas ?
Post by megalodon on May 21st, 2007, 5:08pm
update:

Everything works !!! thank you again Peter!!! The settings were fine; just human ignorance that caused the problem.


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