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(Message started by: hut1 on Dec 13th, 2013, 12:58pm)

Title: FCB1010 controlling SC-2412 Light Controller
Post by hut1 on Dec 13th, 2013, 12:58pm
SC-2412 only accepts Note Messages and FCB1010 will transmit but the lights go off when I release my foot as a note off is sent.  I want to use Midi-ox to map a PC or CC to a note on that will stay on when I release my foot.  Is this possible
Hut 1

Title: Re: FCB1010 controlling SC-2412 Light Controller
Post by Breath on Dec 15th, 2013, 12:51am
You can remove the Note off message with a filter in the Options/Data Mapping...
You either need to know if the Behringer uses NOTE ON and 0 velocity (90 key 00) for note off or NOTE OFF   (80 key velocity)
Or just insert two lines into the filter and get rid of both.

'Clear' to remove anything already there
'Insert' for the first line
'When  input matches'
 Channel = FCB channel
 Event Type = 'NoteOn'
 Min and Max Note# = FCB Note for both
 Min and Max Velocity = 0 for both
'Set Output to'
 Discard
'OK'

'Insert' for the second line
'When  input matches'
 Channel = FCB channel
 Event Type = 'NoteOff'
 Min and Max Note# = FCB Note for both
 Min and Max Velocity = -1 for both
'Set Output to'
 Discard
'OK'

Next to the 'OK' button select 'Turn Map On (after OK)'
'OK'

How are you going to finally send a Note off message?
Hope you don't have any hanging notes.

All the best
Royce

Title: Re: FCB1010 controlling SC-2412 Light Controller
Post by hut1 on Dec 15th, 2013, 3:25am
Hi Royce,

Thanks for this, I will try this out when I get to my studio.  
Regarding the note off, the FCB, I believe sends Note On 0 Velocity and each preset can send multiple midi messages so I was hoping that sending a "NoteOff" first in the preset chain of midi messages per preset would give the desired effect.
What I need to test is that the multiple messages are sent from the FCB in the order I program them in...everytime, and not sent randomly.
I can review the message data in Midi-ox for this.
Do you have any suggestions of your own, maybe incorporating this into Midi-ox, would that be more reliable?

Cheers hut1


Title: Re: FCB1010 controlling SC-2412 Light Controller
Post by hut1 on Dec 16th, 2013, 4:43am
Hi Royce,  neither of those seemed to cure the problem so there must have been another cause affecting this.  That said your reply gave me a better unstaing of how Midi-ox works and through that I have managed to get it going by translating a CNTL Change to a Note On with a velocity of 127.  I have used CC1-48 (for the 48 user presets on the SC-2412) but had to enter individual lines for each CC as a range didn't work. The 48 User Presets start at Note Number 22 so CC1 value 127 translates to Note 22 Velocity 127, CC2 Value 127 to Note 23 Velocity 127 ....and so on.
The FCB will allow you to toggle between 2 CC Values on the same footswitch so I also added another line to Midi-ox to translate CC Range 1-48 Value 0 to Note On Value 22-69 Velocity 0
Now when I press an FCB Preset 1 my first chase is activated then when I press it again it turns it off - Bingo!!
I'm not in front of my gear right now but if you want the exact details I can get this down for you and other members if it would be of any use.

Cheers

hut1

Title: Re: FCB1010 controlling SC-2412 Light Controller
Post by Breath on Dec 16th, 2013, 5:42pm
Glad you sorted it out.

You might like to know that the Data mapping can use either byte of the incoming message.

So your input part of the filter line for CC to Note On
Any : Ctrl : 1 Min Crtl# Max 1  : 0 Min Amount Max 20
Output part
Match Input : Note On : 22 Min Note# Max 42  : 127 Min Velocity Max 127
and select "Use input value 2 (Pull)"


All the best
Royce



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