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(Message started by: Princess_Celia on Oct 18^th, 2003, 4:43am)

Title: Connecting to Timidity++ using Midi yoke
Post by Princess_Celia on Oct 18^th, 2003, 4:43am

My friend has installed the free viewer issued by Mozart music processor, for viewing and playing back files created in Mozart. As he has only cheap fm synthesis on his soundcard the sound quality is very poor. Is it possible to link the midi output of one program, via Midi yoke, to Timidity? If so, can anyone tell me how? Timidity is open source, but it seems the user has to do an awful lot of configuring and setting up to make it work, and my head starts to swim!

Thanks!

Title: Re: Connecting to Timidity++ using Midi yoke
Post by Jamie OConnell on Oct 19^th, 2003, 3:33am

Although I am not familiar with Timidity++, I surmise that this should work, assuming Timidity can open standard MIDI devices.

After getting MIDI Yoke installed and rebooting, you should be able to select the MIDI Yoke 1 port as the Output device for Mozart, and the MIDI Yoke 1 port as the Input to Timidity++. Then MIDI data will flow from Mozart into Timidity++.

Title: Re: Connecting to Timidity++ using Midi yoke
Post by Peter L Jones on Oct 19^th, 2003, 1:58pm

Yes but you need to run the right version.

TiMidity++ for Windows comes in two flavours: MIDI file render and MIDI Synthesiser. The former only reads MIDI files. The latter sits in the Tray and reads a MIDI port. If I remember right, the documentation even points to the MIDI Yoke site.

The tray/synth version is "twsyng.exe".

(Unfortunately, even on my brand spanking new Athlon 2800 XP, the Windows version suffers from the drawback of using the Windows Multimedia Extensions for audio. It's very laggy and stutters horridly. My old Celeron 400 running Linux was quite capable of using TiMidity in ALSA-server mode to render realtime MIDI with hardly any latency. Perhaps someone (me?!) should write an ASIO or portaudio driver for TiMidity++... or turn it into a VSTi...)

Title: Re: Connecting to Timidity++ using Midi yoke
Post by Princess_Celia on Oct 19^th, 2003, 7:01pm

Thank you so much for the info. This has turned out to be quite a steep learning curve for me. ??? I managed to find the Timidity synth, and after installing it I crashed my computer, oh, goodness knows how many times, before it spluttered into life. This is a (relatively) fast computer, my friend has a Pentium 200 he uses principally as a home-office computer - he wouldn't take it kindly if I foul things up for him.

I managed to route midi far more successfully into DirectMusic Producer. Once again, this is a cpu-hungry program, especially the latest version (which I don't have - it runs on DirectX 9, and the actual DMP is a 30mb download, and requires 100mb hard disk space) which rules it out for all but big, powerful computers. Does anyone know of any (free) synths that use DirectMusic? There are pleny of stand-alone players, but I haven't found one with a MIDI input port (apart from DMP, that is.)

Thanks for all your help!

Sarah

Title: Re: Connecting to Timidity++ using Midi yoke
Post by Jamie OConnell on Oct 21^st, 2003, 12:34pm

If you find a stand-alone player that will do the work, you can route the MIDI to it via MIDI Yoke.