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(Message started by: psibernaut on Feb 26^th, 2007, 10:08pm)

Title: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. Help!
Post by psibernaut on Feb 26^th, 2007, 10:08pm

I have XGWorks running my SWXG1000 card. I also have MIDI-OX and MIDI Yoke installed. MY OS is Windows 2000 Pro.

I'm trying to use a Roland S-10 keyboard to play the sounds on the card. The problem is that the S-10 sends an All Notes Off MIDI message when all the keys are released.

Is there a way to filter out this instruction using the software I have? I can't get my head around it. If anyone can describe how to this I'd be delighted; editing the event list is getting a bit tedious!
:-S

Any thoughts?

psibernaut >;-)

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by Peter L Jones on Feb 27^th, 2007, 6:05pm

(Not sure why you posted this question about MIDI OX in "3rd Party" but anyway..!)

You need to set up a Data Mapping that has the All Notes Off MIDI message as the incoming message and "discard" as the outgoing.

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by psibernaut on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 10:38am

"Not sure why you posted this question about MIDI OX in "3rd Party..."

Er, good point, neither am I! (blushes)

Yes, I've figured out that I need to set up a Data Mapping with All Notes Off set to Discard. I can do that.

The trouble is that I still can't visualise how to patch Midi-Ox and XGWorks together so that the Data Mapping is effective. Would I need to use MIDI Yoke as well?
:-S

I was rather hoping someone would explain, giving specific instructions, how I might get the job done. I've tried but I just get confused and disheartened.

Maybe I should just get rid of the S-10 and find a keyboard with better MIDI manners?

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by Jamie OConnell on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 1:20pm

Not sure how you have the S-10 hooked to XGWorks now, but you can replace that connection with a single instance of MIDI-OX and a MIDI Yoke. Connect the S10 to input to MIDI-OX and select a MIDI Yoke port as Output. In XGWorks select the same numbered MIDI Yoke port as Input. Now all MIDI data will be filtered through MIDI-OX before it gets to XGWorks.

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by psibernaut on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 7:57pm

"Not sure how you have the S-10 hooked to XGWorks now..."

I've got the S-10 connected to the MIDI In socket of my SW1000XG. That's why I can't see how to get anything between the SW10000XG MIDI In and the onboard synths. I don't see how I could get anything (such as MIDI-OX) to see the S-10 first.
:-(

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by psibernaut on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 8:00pm

Nice looking Telecaster, by the way, Jamie!
It it your own guitar? I had a 70's model sunburst one for a while.

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by psibernaut on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 8:31pm

If I try to open XGWorks after MIDI-OX I get an XGWorks error message saying, "Failed to open MIDI Out Driver" and then one saying, "Failed to open MIDI In Driver".
If I open XGWorks first and then open MIDI-OX I get a MIDI-OX error message saying, "SW1000 MIDI IN: the specified device is already in use. Wait until it is free, and then try again.", followed by another saying, "SW1000 MIDI IN: the specified device is already in use. Wait until it is free, and then try again."

Beats me. :-(

Title: Re: Roland S-10 sends All Notes Off to XGWorks. He
Post by Jamie OConnell on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 8:47pm

Is it possible to separate the SWXG1000 MIDI Interface from the onboard SWXG Sounds? I don't have one so I am just guessing here. What you want to do (not sure you can?) is to connect the S10 to MIDI-OX: open MIDI-OX and select the SWXG1000 as Input, select MIDI Yoke 1 as Output.

Then in XGWorks, select MIDI Yoke 1 as Input and whatever (SWXG1000?) as Output.

Apparently the SWXG1000 MIDI Interface is not multi-client (although MIDI Yoke is).

Maybe you need to ask Yamaha for help... :(

N.B. The Tele is a picture of a model I have (52 reissue), but not the actual guitar :)