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B.V.S
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6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« on: Aug 21st, 2003, 2:22am » |
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For some reason, the only time I encounter drama with this beta is when using Cubase. The program agrees with my other software but when it comes to Cubase, lockups and frazzle are bound to occur. I'm not sure what action(s) cause this because it seems to happen randomly but I'll try to describe: 1. Win2K loads MIDIOX 2. Open Cubase song 3. Work on the song for 10-25 minutes 4. Cubase begins to stutter even though latency is maxed 5. Close Cubase 6. Cubase wont close 7. Ctrl+Alt+Delete to close Cubase 8. Slam hands on Triton keyboard in frustration 9. Notice no MIDI activity in System Tray 10. Open MIDIOX 11. MIDIOX wont open 12. Close MIDIOX 13. MIDIOX wont close 14. Ctrl+Alt+Del to close 15. Reload MIDIOX 16. Reload Cubase 17. 10-25 minutes later...Rinse and Repeat This only happens to Cubase and none of the other software. After the most recent episode MIDIOX did not get stuck so I've copied the Monitor text. Is this the log you need to see? : FYI: I did'nt use any Cubase MIDI features other than position and clock. So why is Pitch Bend listed? TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT Opened MIDI Input Opened MIDI Output 00093F4C 8 10 E0 00 40 1 --- Pitch Bend 00093F4D 8 10 D0 00 -- 1 --- Channel Aft 00093F4E 8 10 B0 01 00 1 --- CC: Modulation 00093F4F 8 10 B0 7B 00 1 --- CC: All Notes Off 00093F50 8 10 B0 40 00 1 --- CC: Pedal (Sustain) 00093F51 8 10 E1 00 40 2 --- Pitch And it repeats itself for the entire length of the session. Thanks for your effort.
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Re: 6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« Reply #1 on: Aug 24th, 2003, 2:41pm » |
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The messages shown look like a reset in progress. The messages are being sent on each millisecond tick, and would cause slowdown if they continue indefinitely. The last message indicates the beginning of channel 2 messages, and I would expect this series to end after channel 16. If it continues past that, I would suspect some type of MIDI feedback problem. Bend is being sent because it is being reset to center.
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Re: 6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« Reply #2 on: Aug 24th, 2003, 8:39pm » |
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OK. perhaps Cubase doesn't like the beta. So how does one prevent feedback? Is there a way to detect it before a lockup? Another thing I've noticed is when MIDIOX is disabled, Cubase will not open all the way. It will splash and then crash unless MIDIOX is running. Pretty wierd huh, any ideas?
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Re: 6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« Reply #3 on: Aug 26th, 2003, 10:15pm » |
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This is getting to be a real problem. First its wierd activities that are said to be feedback...then I disable MIDI out in Cubase and the same wierdness continues. Something I noticed when tweaking Cubase is that none of the MIDIYoke inputs are available. They don't even show up but MIDIYoke outputs do. Please tell me I don't have to uninstall MIDIOX/Yoke before I use Cubase, then reinstall them when I'm finished with Cubase. What a pain that would be especially when I bounce from app to app...
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Re: 6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« Reply #4 on: Aug 26th, 2003, 10:20pm » |
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on Aug 24th, 2003, 2:41pm, Jamie OConnell wrote:The messages shown look like a reset in progress. The messages are being sent on each millisecond tick, and would cause slowdown if they continue indefinitely. The last message indicates the beginning of channel 2 messages, and I would expect this series to end after channel 16. If it continues past that, I would suspect some type of MIDI feedback problem. Bend is being sent because it is being reset to center. |
| Yeah it causes slowdown and continues beyond ch 16. Bend isn't even being used so why would it need to be reset? I realize wierd things can happen with MIDI but all I'm doing is pressing play, stop, and rewind. Those messages don't show but functions I'm not using do. *(^@%#(*%^!@!_&)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 6.7.0.355 Does not like Cubase 5.1
« Reply #5 on: Sep 14th, 2003, 5:24pm » |
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It sounds as though MIDI data is being routed continually inside Cubase. Make sure you don't have the same MIDI Yoke port opened for both input and output within Cubase. If you're using an earlier version of Cubase, I think they have a SetupMME utility that can be used to prevent opening both ends of a MIDI Yoke port inside the app (disable either the input or output end of each MIDI Yoke).
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