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MIDI yoke on Win 98
« on: Jan 20th, 2003, 1:37am » |
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Hi,
I experienced a problem with load of Win 98 of yoke.
I currently use a MOTU MTPAV (parrallel version) 8 in 8 out for MIDI.
When I installed the MIDI Yoke my driver for the MOTU disappeared upon boot up (At this time there was a MIDI error reported and the computer asked for a manual shut down. When I did as it requested and rebooted that is when I found the MIDI Yoke was displayed but no longer the MOTU MPTAV MIDI interface ).
When the Yoke is uninstalled then the MOTU driver worked again after two reboots and reininitializing the MTPAV .
This also occurred on the Hubi Loopback when I tried that program as well.
I do have a feeling that the others who posted a NT issue on another forum Subject earlier about Regedit fixes may be a solution to this here since I maybe locked due registery entry errors ??
I wonder if the issue is a driver conflict and if there is a fix for it ??
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #1 on: Jan 20th, 2003, 12:02pm » |
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It is rather rare to experience this problem under Win 98. I have heard of people fixing it by: 1) Install MIDI Yoke, 2) re-install MPTAV. You should now be set, but if MIDI Yoke is now hidden, then resort to the registry investigation.
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #2 on: Jan 21st, 2003, 1:20am » |
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Hello,
I forgot to add in my earlier message that when I installed the Hubbi's Loopback I got an driver conflict.
I fugure there might be a simular conflict problem on the Yoke Driver issue.
I can reinstal the MTPAV but I am concerned that I might end up with the MOTU none functioning.
Do you think that could be possible ??
One thing I do know of that is a problem is with the driver for the (parrellel version) of the MOTU. It only runs periodically. And I have to re-boot till driver wants to work.
MOTU wants me to update to Windows XP since they say I should move over to the new operating system.
I need to find out if MOTU and EMagic both are supporting XP.
My system was turn keyed by Full Compass and I will check with them as well.
Any other suggestion would be helpful.
Would it be possible to get an Registry printout of a computer running correctly with your yoke driver and having a mulit-Input/output MIDI device?
I could then see what was correct in the "INI" file.
Thank for all help!
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #3 on: Jan 21st, 2003, 6:08pm » |
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I fugure there might be a simular conflict problem on the Yoke Driver issue.
I can reinstal the MTPAV but I am concerned that I might end up with the MOTU none functioning.
Do you think that could be possible ??
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I don't think that is likely. The problem seems to be that each install is stealing the MIDIn= (where 'n' is a number) entry from the other out of the registry. The driver has no control over this -- it's something Windows 98 is doing (I think). My guess is that Windows may do the right thing the 2nd time around.
I don't have a Windows 98 machine at the moment, so I can't tell you which keys are affected by a Win 98 install (there are a lot of them). You might be able to do this yourself with a install logging program.
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #4 on: Jan 22nd, 2003, 11:03pm » |
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1.I should Install a Logging Program (from who, where)  ?
2. The MIDI=(N), this reference is out of the "INI" in registry I assume?
3. Windows 98 will work with more than (eleven)
MIDI Inputs ?
a) With my MOTU it has 8 inputs and 3 inputs for the YOKE . And when I look at the display it also show a sync & adat for the MOTU.
I would think that I would change the MIDI(N) to 14 on the safe side. Right ??
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #5 on: Jan 24th, 2003, 12:46pm » |
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1) You might try the In Control freeware from PC Mag:
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp
2) Not sure what is meant, but The MIDIn= entries used to be in the System.ini in Win 3.1. They are now somewhere in the registry on Win 98.
3) Yes, Windows 98 does not have the same bug that plagued Win 95 regarding 11 MIDI Ports. In addition each driver is only counted as one device, even if it supports multiple ports, so MOTU + MIDI Yoke = 2 entries with regard to MIDIn=
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midi2=motu.drv
midi3=midiyoke.drv
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #6 on: Jan 26th, 2003, 1:16am » |
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I have a half sucess on a reinstall of you program.
I got a weird error from windows though.
I crashed the computer requiring me to use the pwr. down switch on the back of the computer to clear the lock up.
When I did it the last time it also did it then. When I rebooted, I found that your program was listing on Logic and Reason both but when I tried to use it I got a message that there was a loop and it shut down the port.
I have not tried to reestablish it since I think it is wired OK.
The out ports are set on the side menu bar of logic.
And if I am correct You assign the in port using the optional multi port connection of reason which in my case shows for connections which can be assigned to any MOTU connection and now the tow Yoke connections.
I had talked to Propellorhead support and they say that reason is one way MIDI in only.
If there is a loop it is in Logic - at least I think so ??
I do know that the program must be working since it gives me the "midi yoke loopback - midi feed back detected - disabled port (and it happens on both ports.
I will try to glean more infomation off of Emagic since they said this was a solution but it maybe I need to read your notes too.
J
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #7 on: Jan 26th, 2003, 11:44am » |
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We have some information about using MIDI Yoke with Logic in the FAQ: MIDI Yoke and Logic
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Re: MIDI yoke on Win 98
« Reply #8 on: Jan 27th, 2003, 11:23pm » |
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_(Correction to this note)
I have it running but It will not allow playing of Reason while in idle. It will work when Logic is playing back or recording.
I have found a way to get it running that is extra information on how to hookup in Logic.
When the Enviroment is open take the Physical input connection. Unassign all cables then Hook them to a monitor object. This will allow the cables to route to a alternate SUMing location replacing the old SUM and not connecting the Input Yoke connections. This will elliminate the offending feedback loop.
J
If someone knows how to get it to work for monitoring without playing let me know?
I am still working that one. It is usable as it is.
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