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The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« on: Jun 30th, 2019, 11:13am »
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I was suggested that MIDI-OX can fix the error I encountered.  
 
I've read MIDI-OX manual but I don't understand which case is suitable for me. "MIDI-OX Help - Welcome - Making Connections"
 
 
 
--- Detailed Problem Description ---  
 
 
I get this error "The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened : Impact LX61+" in Reaper software. (DAW) (Music Production Software)
 
Impact LX61+ is my MIDI Keyboard.
 
I have a standalone app called Hi-Pi Instruments "MicroSynth" which enable you play microtonal scales on your MIDI Keyboard and switch between them easily.
 
I want to route “MicroSynth” via virtual MIDI Input app “loopMIDI” into Reaper.
 
Then I want to load plugins (Native Instruments VST’s etc.) to play those Microtonal scales with VST’s with my MIDI Keyboard.
 
Developer said I can definitely do that but doesn’t give me further assistance (still he tried) by saying that he uses another DAW. It’s explained on the website. “Can I use your software (or TBX2) to retune synths in my DAW?”
 
https://hpi.zentral.zone/faq#daw
 
 
Here are my settings;
 
 
Microsynth
 
Input : Impact LX61+
 
Output : Virtual Cable 1
 
 
 
Reaper Track
 
Input : Virtual Cable 1 (All Channels)
 
OS : Windows 10  
 
 
 
Native Instrument Virtual Keyboard is working. But It's NOT working when I play with my MIDI Keyboard.
 
 
--- Detailed Problem Description ---  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #1 on: Jul 9th, 2019, 1:21am »
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Hi
Firstly if your Impact LX61+ didn't come with a CD with a driver on it and just uses the Windows drivers, then you can only use it on a single application at a time.
I thought this had been fixed in Win10, but it seems I am wrong.
It is called a "single client driver" and one of the reasons I tell people to buy a USB Midi interface that comes with it's own driver and not use MS limited driver.
 
Once you connect it to MicroSynth there are no more client ports from the keyboard left that Reaper can use when it trys to connect to it. Hence the error.
You could test this by starting Reaper before anything else and try connecting it to your keyboard. If it is OK then you know for sure it is a single client issue.
 
You can convert a single client Midi driver to a MultiClient one by using MidiYoke or loopMidi or (I think) loopBE in MidiOx.
 
Your loopMidi solution looks OK so I'm not sure why it is not working, but you could try this...
 
In MidiOx Options Midi devices select the keyboard in and out as well as all the loopMidi ports.
Make sure the Input Monitor is visible (View / Input Monitor)
Play the keyboard and you should see the Midi data coming from the keyboard.
 
In the Midi Port Routing window (View / Midi Port Routing ) drag the midi socket on the left for the keyboard and join it to the loopMidi1 (output) on the right.
Play your keyboard and you should see Midi data come in from the keyboard as well as the echoed data coming in through the loopMidi1 input.
 
Start MicroSynth and make the input loopMidi1 and the output loopMidi2.
 
Alt+Tab back to MidiOx and play your keyboard.
You should see data from your keyboard, data echoed back in from loopMidi1 and also the output from MicroSynth coming in on loopMidi2.
 
Start Reaper and connect the VST to loopMidi2
 
Let me know how you get on.
All the best
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #2 on: Jul 9th, 2019, 9:16am »
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I divide your suggestions into steps;
 
1) In MidiOx Options Midi devices select the keyboard in and out as well as all the loopMidi ports.  
Make sure the Input Monitor is visible (View / Input Monitor)  
Play the keyboard and you should see the Midi data coming from the keyboard.  
 
2) In the Midi Port Routing window (View / Midi Port Routing ) drag the midi socket on the left for the keyboard and join it to the loopMidi1 (output) on the right.  
Play your keyboard and you should see Midi data come in from the keyboard as well as the echoed data coming in through the loopMidi1 input.  
 
3) Start MicroSynth and make the input loopMidi1 and the output loopMidi2.  
 
Alt+Tab back to MidiOx and play your keyboard.  
You should see data from your keyboard, data echoed back in from loopMidi1 and also the output from MicroSynth coming in on loopMidi2.  
 
4) Start Reaper and connect the VST to loopMidi2  
 
Step 1
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6l1isoyd8dxtt1s/Step%201.PNG?dl=0
 
After Step 1 It looks like that.
 
 
Step 2
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1onpvnv6x2nexdu/Step%202.PNG?dl=0
 
After Step 2 It looks like that.
 
After Step 2 when I hit a key on MIDI keyboard It says Note On and after i release the key it says Note Off at Monitor Input Screen of MIDIOX.
 
Step 4
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n761n7uojtez6dr/Step%204%20Reaper%20MIDI%20Dev ices.PNG?dl=0
 
 
When I open Reaper I get this error (the link above)
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fe8tvaaqxzsoh3a/Step%204%20Reaper%20Start.PNG? dl=0
 
You see MIDI Devices in Reaper (the link above)
 
Look at the Input section;
 
There are 3 loopMIDI items.
 
+ loopMIDI Port (It says not present. I can not make it enable) !HuhHuh  
 
+ MicroSynth 1 (Assigned Input on Microsynth)
 
+ MicroSytnh 2 (Assigned Output on Microsynth)
 
There are 2 items for my MIDI keyboard
 
+ Impact LX61+  
 
+ MIDIIN2 (Impact LX61+) !!!Huh (I don't know what it is. But I can do it enable. But still get the same error)
 
After the step 4 in MIDIOX Monitor Input Screen the data flows whether or not I hit the key of my MIDI Keyboard. !!!!HuhHuh
 
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #3 on: Jul 28th, 2019, 9:51pm »
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Hi
Step 1  I can see the data from your keyboard coming in
Step 2 - right click and select "Disconnect All" to remove all the lines
 
In Options / Midi Devices you need to selected some MidiLoop Ins and MidiLoop Outs (they should show in the MidiPort Routing Window)
 
Go to Options/General and select "Display Port Name abbrv...." so you can see if it coming from the keyboard or MidiLoop
 
After you have done that you can left click drag the picture of a Midi port from you keyboard on the left to the MidiLoop on the right. This should draw a connecting line.
Now when you play your keyboard you should see data coming in from your Keyboard in the Midi Input Monitor, and in the Output Monitor you should see it being sent to MidiLoop
 and (looking in the Input Monitor again) the returning data via MidiLoop.
 
You should now be able to open Reaper and select MidiLoop as the Input (as it is now like the Keyboard connected to a MidiLoop extension cord)
Don't worry if Reaper protests with keyboard error message when you first start.
On the Reaper Preferences/ Audio/ Midi Devices  disable the keyboard and enable MidiLoop in the MidiIn and MidiOut.
Press the 'Reset Midi Devices button.
 
Let me know how you get on.
 
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #4 on: Aug 12th, 2019, 6:24pm »
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Step 2 Answer 2.1
 
" Step 2 - right click and select "Disconnect All" to remove all the lines  
 
In Options / Midi Devices you need to selected some MidiLoop Ins and MidiLoop Outs (they should show in the MidiPort Routing Window)  
 
Go to Options/General and select "Display Port Name abbrv...." so you can see if it coming from the keyboard or MidiLoop  
 
After you have done that you can left click drag the picture of a Midi port from you keyboard on the left to the MidiLoop on the right. This should draw a connecting line. "
 
Here's my screen after doing your suggestion. (Link 1)
 
Link 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6nhwgb5uadha3i/Link%201.PNG?dl=0
 
 
 
Step 2 Answer 2.2
 
"Now when you play your keyboard you should see data coming in from your Keyboard in the Midi Input Monitor, and in the Output Monitor you should see it being sent to MidiLoop  
 and (looking in the Input Monitor again) the returning data via MidiLoop."
 
Link 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ekha28jbtq9bmn/Link%202.PNG?dl=0
 
The screen you see on the “Link 2.png” is Input Monitor. (Now I called virtual MIDI channel as Microsynth MIDI 1)
 
Step 2 Question 1 : Where is Output Monitor? How do you see data from the Keyoard is sent to MidiLoop.  
 
 
Step 2 Question 2
 
"Don't worry if Reaper protests with keyboard error message when you first start.  
On the Reaper Preferences/ Audio/ Midi Devices  disable the keyboard and enable MidiLoop in the MidiIn and MidiOut.  
Press the 'Reset Midi Devices button. "
 
Do I disable MIDI Keyboard on Reaper?
 
Link 3  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x64k0xu9qvf25kw/Link%203.PNG?dl=0
 
You see the Reaper Screen after the adjustments you’d suggested on the “Link 3.png”
 
 
 
Summary
+ When I play MIDI Keyboard MIDI OX Input Monitor responds.
+ However Kontakt does not sound.
+ When I play Kontakt’s Virtual Keyboard It sounds but not the scale on MicroSynth Software.
 
I think the connection between MicroSynth and Reaper is not established.
 
Suggestions?
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #5 on: Aug 12th, 2019, 10:49pm »
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Thanks for the pics that makes it much clearer for me and I think I see your problem.
 
First I'll call the virtual midi interface  "LoopMidi" as Microsynth is the tuning app, right?
 
Input and output path
LX61+ -> MidiOx -> LoopMidi1 -> MicroSynth -> LoopMidi2 -> Reaper
and
Reaper-> VST
 
So in MicroSynth the ONLY Midi Input is LoopMidi1 and the ONLY output is LoopMidi2.
In Reaper ONLY select LoopMidi2 as your Midi input and disable ALL Midi outputs  as you are only using a VST.
 
If this works OK, try removing MidiOx from the path and only run Reaper and Microsynth.
 
LX61+ -> MicroSynth -> LoopMidi2 -> Reaper
and
Reaper-> VST
 
In MicroSynth the ONLY Midi Input is LX61+ and the ONLY output is LoopMidi2.
In Reaper ONLY select LoopMidi2 as your Midi input and disable ALL Midi outputs  as you are only using a VST.
 
Let me know how you get on.
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #6 on: Aug 15th, 2019, 1:34pm »
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I'm not sure If I understand your last suggestions right. The settings seems weird to me in this way.
 
Probably I misunderstood and made it false.
 
Check out the screens.
 
MicroSynth Screen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mgr0m1rtdhekub/The%20Last%20MicroSynth.PNG?dl =0
 
MIDI OX Port Routing Screen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1c3xhcy4gzkt8ni/The%20Last%20MIDI%20OX.PNG?dl= 0
 
Reaper Screen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/erzujtwv703278f/The%20Last%20Reaper.PNG?dl=0
 
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #7 on: Aug 15th, 2019, 11:12pm »
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Everything looks good except for Reaper.
ONLY have MicroMidiSynth2 Active in the Midi input selection of Reaper.
 
So the Midi path is ...
 
LX61 -> MidiOX -> MicroMIDISynth1 -> MicroSynth -> MicroMIDISynth2 -> Reaper
 
If that works then try to see if the LX61 will work without even running MidiOx
 
LX61 ->  MicroSynth -> MicroMIDISynth2 -> Reaper
 
All the best  
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #8 on: Aug 17th, 2019, 10:52am »
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It doesn't work.
 
1) This is Reaper settings you suggested on your last answer. Is that right?
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/52diftczfffvk5r/Reaper%20Final.PNG?dl=0
 
2) Check out the "MIDI OX Port Routing" Screen Link at "Reply 6"
 
There MicroSynth Input "MicroSynth MIDI 1" is not linked to MicroSynth Output "MicroSynth MIDI 2"
 
Isn't that false?
 
So the Input Signal of MicroSynth does not go to the Output Signal of MicroSynth.
 
3) By the way I've been getting this error whilst opening MicroSynth.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6xve35qojv6ex7b/MicroSYnth%20Error.PNG?dl=0
 
I open the softwares in order of (from left to right);
 
 connect the MIDI Keyboard to USB, loopMIDI, MIDI-OX, MicroSynth, Reaper
 
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Re: The Following MIDI Inputs Could Not Be Opened
« Reply #9 on: Aug 17th, 2019, 9:59pm »
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Reaper looks fine.
 
What you should check is that there is the correct Midi data coming from MicroSynth .  
 
 
LX61 -> MidiOX -> MicroMIDISynth1 -> MicroSynth -> MicroMIDISynth2 -> Reaper  
 
MicroSynth should be sending data out through MicroMIDISynth2.
As this is also an input to MidiOx you should see the data coming from MicroMIDISynth2 in the Input Monitor
 
As MidiOx only uses the first 3 letters of the interface you will see the same name "Mic" for both MicroMIDISynth1 and MicroMIDISynth2 .
You can either change the Midi Port names (-Options / Customize Port Names"  Press F2 to change )
I would use "M1i" for MicroMIDISynth1 Input and "M1o" for MicroMIDISynth1 Out. Similarly M2i and M2o for the MicroMIDISynth2 ports.
OR
Options / General
Remove the check for "Display Port Name abbrv..." and click OK.
This will display numbers but at least you can see when the ports are different.
 
When you press a LX61 key you should see it coming in from the LX61 on the Input Monitor and then it should go out the MicroMidiSynth1 output as displayed in the Output Monitor.
It should be then processed in MicroSynth and sent out to MicroMIDISynth2 and into both Reaper and also MidiOx Input Monitor underneath the LX61 Midi message you first looked at.
 
If it isn't then the problem is in the MicroSynth program.
 
It doesn't look like MicroSynth is working properly and the error looks like it didn't install properly.
I would uninstall and reinstall it.  
 
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